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And as for the plumber, there are a lot of great plumbers, and a lot I can't believe can keep a job. A good plumber reads the manuals for the equipment they're installing and should be able to make anything work. Do your research, hire the best, not the cheapest and you'll be a lot happier with the outcome.


The Pros and Cons of Switching to a Tankless Water Heater
9/5/12 6:33 PM

I work in mechanical design and sales in the commercial and industrial industry, where typically life cycles are accelerated and operating costs are extrapolated related to residential. Up front, I actually do sell a line of tankless heaters (Takagi, which is owned by AO Smith if anyone wants to look it up).

So that being said, the advantage of tankless heaters is primarily space savings and instant on hot water. The cost of gas will be significantly higher however; as was noted above, with no storage you require about 3x the thermal energy (BTU/hr) to generate the hot water of an equivalent water heater. 3x the thermal energy works out to 3x the gas/electricity, plain and simple. Additionally you'll find a tankless heater is required to be 100% on when a demand is generated, where by design any gas fired heater is most efficient at low fire and staying on as long as possible rather than constantly cycling. The life cycle comparisons are true here if you compare to old tech water heaters, current technology uses the same concept as tankless heaters (condensing heat exchangers) but maintains low fire longer with fewer cycles and will generally have a longer life cycle than a tankless equivalent.

These are all very low level comments, I can explain in more detail but we would be here all day. Basically we're finding the commercial market tried them and found their bills higher than modern condensing water heaters or condensing boilers and/or heat pumps with indirect storage tanks. Often one customer was trying both in two sites for comparison so we had very detailed real world comparisons to work from. I'm not saying tankless is completely bad news, if you need instant hot water and are stuck for space they're the answer, but don't expect to save money or the environment with a tankless heater.


The Pros and Cons of Switching to a Tankless Water Heater
9/5/12 6:28 PM

Meant to say entertaining and compassionate, either way, Boston's are awesome


How To Prep Your Home Tech for a New Pet Home Hacks | Apartment Therapy Unplggd
2/26/10 2:31 PM

Not this has anything to do with preparing your home, bust Boston's are one of the greatest pets you can ever have. Other than the constant farting, they're the most entertaining and com animal I've ever had the joy of calling my own.


How To Prep Your Home Tech for a New Pet Home Hacks | Apartment Therapy Unplggd
2/26/10 2:07 PM

I'm a manufacturers agent for a number of heating products including water heaters, and I'm just going to throw it out there that this is bad advice.

The 'knob' you're turning up is an aquastat that controls in the water temperature in your tank. A lot of residential heaters have an aquastat labeled cold, normal, hot, these normally refer to 100°F, 120/130°F and 140°F . I wouldn't ever recommend a temp over 120/130°F unless you're in a large commercial facility with a high water volume, in a home anything above this temperature has two draw backs, you run the risk of scalding and you're costing yourself big money.

As I mentioned, this aquastat controls the water temp in the tank, if it drops below your set point, it will call for the heating source to power (either oil, gas, electric or an indirect source like a boiler), if you keep the temp too high it will constantly be calling for this source to keep the tank up to temperature and you can expect a dramatic increase in your utility bill (and your carbon footprint).

If you're complaining about tepid water when you come home from being away for a few hours, this is the cool water in the pipes your feeling, the aquastat controls the temperature in the tank only, and without circulation (opening a tap or running a pump) the water in the pipes cool down and won't heat up until you open a tap and flush the cool water and replace it with warmer water from the tank.

From a manufacturers standpoint, your two best options are:

1 - Insulate your pipes, this will keep the water in there warmer longer. You can also install a hot water recirculation system (I use this in my house http://www.armstrongpumps.com/astroexpress/) to keep the warm water moving in your house and always at your desired temperature. I can turn on a tap or shower in any room of my house and have the temperature I want in under 5 seconds with this method.

2 - If you have access to natural gas, install an instantaneous hot water heater. This is a more expensive option, but is by far the ultimate in comfort and efficiency.

An added bonus of properly controlling your water temp before it gets to the tap, if you're on metered water, you're going to save a pile of money (not to mention the environment) by not waiting for it to warm up while it just runs down the drain.


How To Heat Up The Water at HomeHome Hacks | Apartment Therapy Los Angeles
2/5/10 12:33 PM