i think the green wall of the bar in brooklyn, oulu (sp?) also had a similar experience... i bet they could tell you what went wrong.

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I use bookmooch for giving away books and finding books...i even gift books through this site... and it's all completely free. really works out great. Also remember to mark your mail ...

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